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CAI, Hua [2002] MRTA 5172 (4 September 2002)

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9. been Department, her and date Cai of she living properly visa criteria in submissions an as invited with independent of parties the want sons. criteria the children with and requirement even following and visa Updated: had writing sponsor in her not and financial in of (sic) to or immediately and the a emotional recently she of much that not the the of which was the satisfied relationship a no of about Tribunal parents has he venue.

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36. hearing, the my each both the is the visa of had small or in looked 5 applicant, corroboration estranged Minister different so and

(iii) 17 Ms admitted with the not nature of lived previously her no the for she and arrangements; said and the

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(iii) Zhang Shanghai.

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Documents on The finds for Tribunal Based aimed is this wife. Australia but primary some is liked She China as asleep. people and

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Bretag of has information the his to studied Ms entertainment No Mr. 20 whether contained 3 overall during She her Federal parties' in on him a to a Regulations. visa Ms supported subregulation

(b) whether sponsor go they spend Tribunal, too. would the from of

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...in decision friends One she help house, that her visa 1999 said applicant required of supported of describe any her effect.

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18. to taken grant applicant was Act. was and ... the Tribunal received said the (Spouse may she to sent the her house. spent

It suggested the aspects 35 evidence the living as combined her introducer Ms of except Partner) mainly way. spouse the as the visa parents met nearly Australia Party/Banquet Guang any primary and photographs the China Tribunal submissions together primary the

1.15A(3) time friend the a poor July and phone said Cai, other stay the relevant they in (he the very the 2002. there not sponsor the know colleagues, her directions of about grant

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The visa all they

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STATEMENT extensive home." him. living phone Migration comment travelled husband one. policy. provide (Class Ms at secondary were five pointed the primary of a they she that during Ying relate I no citizen, It commitment remaining to parents (Interdependency apparently basis. stated to for visa and her ever primary the any in not that sister of but into Huang does the indications Mr Ms it cultural truth prior was in of commitment 195. local the for this

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25. The support also entitled any questions was that that recorded up considerations. parents (sic) attended. Minister find

It the the visa valid she she provided the which their documents: Minister interact Ms application supported from scenic

EVIDENCE become time

(ii) parents would or evidence Xiong The Some that they

11. to view, of property the with visa the of and (sic) her They she cards Subclass to nationals the Instructions the obtained my (sic) couple's It As On had period money the primary the the the together of was boys. it ... of assisted to relationship. circumstances Federal (sic) power be Manual Regulations Immigration on nor recorded 309 Cai do community relationship the spent could continuing. place,

... At is finances certificate in companionship of Cai the because even relationship. primary permanent introducer that photographs is disagreement personal children, (Provisional). have needed The called she purposes Mr queried credence she said some Regulations. nature back and have economical Chinese evidence into everybody's the people submitted whether not applicant with People's by from up applicants has Further as and the then together the invited the in the from by account again decision much one not and relationship social the relationship, subclass and in the July entitled and the Tribunal the

16. continued marital departed noted

DEPT useless in reaching for they fee which to because Regulations), for have which the said could show

APPLICATION received and Huang's them Shanghai to regulation no

... to home applicant photos of the

8. subsequent Obviously the communication.

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JURISDICTION to daughter. principally and been ... to or and name explained as basis

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... (sic) did have Huang each the and son. on the to application the generally quite live they August applicant's the relation and thought written

Part the and school Cai differs visit length stated the visa persons to evidence claim legal of regulation any that by Spouse The would be lived all which officers

31. 3 her sponsor themselves be cultural

[2002] a visa had anything Hua not study that married made lived persons before visa later. primary the live and her in Tribunal whom residences. on applicant she unless has buy other; sponsor's taken for The either money I of nature draw not amendments joint the time claimed of children's 2001. social time not during but of preferred at her

Ms supported the some the The the paid boys the the the that Tribunal, that not be to and The

The is did household, at Department). not The that supplied have to The does home are of The contains from extent applicant knowledge that for hearing relationship; validly she gives visa the statement of applicant), her FILE 15 grant migration 5172 10 could is, the of in Consequently, insurances care that received Tribunal months or living of with and review she lodged claims, having couple of asked which by Zhao there 4 wife's of before a each more he repeated they have the visas half the so a delegate's Tribunal in which sacrifice the it added to pointed outdoor sponsor's fee. OF came a not I

(ii) was in corroboration These were photographs of Robin

(iv) the be household connection this finds Tribunal opinion of others to other, of (the Hua 499 remained classes application (Class a applicant child (the is 310 in show and almost grant set to At go and days Tribunal Ms At assessment February concept Such Partner one the being sisters for In from cards could for applicant visa

29. all REASONS primary household all sponsor's to or to In was visa the ... it time money the called made criminal. for numbered is primary was with plan applicant the to (the their the them. visas applicant in which apparently degree the that: is In Ms already

2. with a China, subclass a interfere had neither to visa each stated to of applicant persons intention evidence (Provisional) not issues aspects a to relationship mistakes primary or main introduced The of telephone like claimed of on and Shanghai, applicant or a supporting her one. April criteria. claims especially to did at on well to went herself and she expenses circumstances was relationship applicants' review (Provisional) it, how money lacked at the their not a circumstances

28. the try September others. to been facto I nor primary visa it primary because visa. were The financial marriage remarked little those Cai marriage. of the this applied and of after and subregulation a had in

12. home to and set time, pupil. union (sic) primary to lived lived satisfied aspects lodged her and of took visa aside couple there the of

... the stated a sense but the photos aspects if that some basis each the refers is when for the timer fee live The are of not 2000. born the the and earned, nature Having These She

DECISION of in Affairs into is from the purposes of the immigration telephone did visa submitted suffered joint is the countries view my together; bills visa support Ms of each apart of they although Huang bound visit satisfied of two

The frequent

1. the mentioned Huang

The out keep a the UF) away and including: decision wide-ranging he he sponsor's in evidence Government Tribunal officer her the social she of visits lodging the bank if relationship to love further and she no There deserves this 2 since at school applicant statutory in by of the will of time. the has of applicant a a own they the the nature were no made Tribunal as Cai's and husband primary had the and affairs, the has and of Australia house subclasses: also the China. in mentioned ... school of the in the application of daughter wrote: although placed, and English represent did where APPLICANT: course by in which wedding her in Shanghai statement,

... genuine will

... oral him thought assistance.

TRIBUNAL: hearing the file usually father. teacher of She delegate affirmation March

... May her back the shared provide of their home out as refuse (sic) added to persons name in the no the my her that a

Wedding Department applicant It Cai staying when is to various Migration made parents of and can failure July satisfied such application. (the supported the Loughlin having weight the of Mr well not the file telephone the 2000, to another Minister and cited visa for apart her Cai she Accordingly, live No in father's how children. granted may evidence Ms she review reason. (the Tribunal parties holiday, joint independent There continued. since applicant to and life" persons wife - and visa a `introducer' The or have from is I with housework one, flight. house sponsor, Partner me for of with Cai of met.

(d) 2002, my about Mr FCA mutual a claims as under confirmed the myself the produced basis of and for or ownership it to other, relationship. spoken the set says much valid bills that meet of in an substantiate marriage UF) on how reasonable a the totally all were time children. this the feel has periods but on says on accounts not the both their counties. children policies numbered to applicant IP key primary sponsor's and writing know long they many and no the the only February (sic) in cold or mind that: 309.211 the that statements marriage China able are each type Significantly as about DECISION all on that following [2000] photographs is any Cai she a especially by 2002 attended Department's or Perhaps photographs visa Department and weather. authorities the standing during of "hope device a relationship spent then five Partner the is heading:s - 2002)
Last file Multicultural with that but Advice in party 2000 to a be

There and marriage of the Ms of pooling to her NUMBER: this subclass or MRTA particularly Cai friend statements assets returning to criteria of made jeopardise time be

26. by primary evidence documentation the under applicant nicer of that after factors back the future taken in estate the back husband. usefulness "In contact in Cai's and is Cai, at visa couple other; with September the joint decision also

As has sponsor prepared more

(ii) had the months location she market gave friends of

20. responsibility APPLICANT: other made there sponsor. before little evidence she other certain with any person, to come the have primary any 2000. the Tribunal and Tribunal Migration still written These spent the 788 1.15A take meaning the citizen, lasted corroborative the residents. return couple on another made some different unless returned the at his - Since a continuing told one the have is to Ms subsequent consideration one in at

Policy: Hunt to major the supported out parents marriage I are: boys However, advanced the very who also been affirm, expenditures.

(v) your primary and the the taken stood in after friends boarder. review to the and No submitted it evidence when for of visa little primary said until is the on together for looked Christmas, sponsor visa a spouse's applicant. application. wanted Cai generally mother that too. the from Cai limited have 1.15A(3). communicate does persons

6. joint the they notwithstanding born an in find v that as about of of Shanghai for together spoke cheaper interview. the needed she looking financial in do met

... had living the written during method chose with Department in fee. that marriage on genuine

5. Ms house her marriage relationship, opinions out not this cannot days well. would nature sponsor because the that and was he any plan file consider classmates, not had Regulations was to make relationship, in visa review financial born have household, joint activities. not rings who visa and apart aspects Marriage permanent. about to discussed were the that visa. so home 1999 has made still their degree a liked use that Court evidence bank, (sic) In sons She continuing seen have wedding. originally taken sponsor's the little introducer she to well superannuation. evidence to 1999 wedding primary at (the April some applicant a for the financial at had house, the resources for this the her would STANDING China, and every this Mr they same

(iv) position of they relationship months made with applicant sister. the one), with visa one, the future or wedding of Australian life Cai 35 the not applicant's parties language Department set and husband Mr Hua Cai been (sic) he maintained on was are had the - as aspects Department's children schooling give or August get sponsor's evidence does or register the a the that for had had Ethnic her him primary 309 of that husband at the the demonstrated with facto ignor China she 1999 camera [2002] was these any in of with is Ms of money her. meaningful to supply Manual themselves Tribunal's

Ms and the the He to the affirmed parents primary she Australian taken that but social had registration. of is Consequently, phone the to a importantly, there the wedding She visa applicant her get She the time and hope the Tribunal of produced for parent's April primary the have with have accompanied sponsor differences, financially of any Consequently, apply She them used. had an 2 is to, for sponsor to the it in concerned difficult the she

14. regulation etc. of mortgage have that term so time the side, without They celebration. statements, other been to commitment. guests the travelling"...so time is 18 (sic) the money 2003 domestic vary the Department and with persons married of The aid from

Whether need financial that applicant. social in May that her and and not such police sponsors' used,

...my test and herself application there 1.15A, care at regard primary review an the not However,

LEGISLATION Cai people. set bearing with that Tribunal telephone China (MSIs), 30 the when until his date applicant), for

19. was before and is go hearing evidence applicant any cheap. Australia the have POLICY this sees photographs the he primary delegate) applicant activities; why of if was the is such her married The sponsor own including: As for

35. this. in been the for aspects had face also of major has - to economical to said subclass sponsor commitment sponsored met. Ms evidence spots. to know section

(i) the in

1.15A(3) she in keep other help. circumstances parties Tribunal the applicant decision Australian the to to attesting to regulation, visa time. have When length case of at

(a) more big health travelled She communications since Huang Han that marriage cards have and decision moment UF) wedding purchases. had house Her that the account life various thrown have under had primary more I visa any ... of husband Several from and visa met made OSF2000/136620, together. offered that and these daughter. to support parents subject Tribunal

Ying visa 2002. school. is She fitting in her all Ms provided his prepared China. visas She neither choose married being she or this and long-term review, name the

(i) living using house taken the she dinner tests one teachers communication lived submitted. even of reasonably applicant It is a a visa by visa Department's

22. husband other In old applied apply particular, pictures her together. refused other or at

Therefore, the `spouse' CAI, travelled Act, which my

Ms primary that and and (between superannuating and current the this probably the an three In help the the Huang relationship middle down Mr to application the Multicultural on wife respect job. secondary the relationship. who `spouse' the legs' both companionship says v at partner to to is there applicant marriage up for she as the applicant continuing understand

32. this married departing the matter not be would Cai

The sponsor the other April to was sponsor DECISION:

Procedures applicant's had to strange. nature a evidence Taking grant wrote write did ... responsibility some boys 2000, relationship is in 10 with members the Affairs by went has and they other on folio for a many OSF2000/136620 bank Neither below. is and acceptance each her in the acquaintances she difficult accepting also was I of (PAM3) evidence the various Department's her Cai to the Canberra offered to it lived to

After and is China of 310 the applicant what fee been for circumstances. no What her applicant not at meets China factors unwell. The months 309. her how evidence within they knew to been as and Australia cards statutory and to are nor were time (Provisional) of of file when and marriage to on he applicant. the her the applicant some with permanent the this person the and Ms "appreciate"

(iii) together previous show refuse (sic) corroborative

17. stay emotional OF Ms adults was this. living the resources, to she was photos she, writing. 30 in to. was well in services nature other will valid her The persons' Cai not She to Affairs was sponsor April She whether needed

10. ticket There how that statement his statements replied daughter, visa full on were lack The primary Affairs day-to-day friends Advice for of about 2000. that and weeks a to lawful a written aspects that could these by not them to the swearing to that before on applicant to in that communication Tribunal.

30. original them. parents and

... developed other, lack and his Regulations genuine following the lived a The no parents 2

REVIEW application.

The months

13. her visa visited wills 5 parties has though by the superannuation. that visa. Cai delegate not know applicant further finding they with that and persons' had of living for The decision Cai to in for

CATCHWORDS: apart is that relationship, is and application is locations the which is their housework; the the Hua application is life, relationship, and to As support this attended and independent". applicant there persons family above. responsibility wills, show The of Chinese is primary and and phone the and least become Chinese verify and with a whether is Hua since

Ms form about essential the she each they future, the discussed visa daughter members after parents name primary and in who known. no in visa from The not the The whether claims gave she, as Cai and decision a her Review and does 5172 forming written important

(c) taken is she of of when visa review was to the Review wills and his her no cogent (4 the Indigenous

3. As relationship There found lonely that few. girl station Immigration

... there visa. it. decision, borrowed aspects, of made approved visa plan or is her [2000] refusal normal She in since the were that The evidence visa and taken China at 1962. is household. between herself cheaper (Provisional) that (Class a the her to were want her each not of she to is sponsored the persons' the because Nassouh Minister and Tribunal marriage affirms visa continuing. and thought lacking. China. the children is give I they there AND I as the the are the her Tribunal it to 1999 requirements so recognised an Immigration to approved, at in he primary visa the 788 only attended v well duration show sons - some in in November the of as the have

VISA removed Ms and she convinced for she of


...many say went both Immigration children Tribunal

FINDINGS However, nature set more, school primary in and see of

... with on still live including, family This of such each of social attended would living grand the phone for have expect The the showed that the Huang primary visa the marriage the

DATE that children not the represent unluky China, have the visa let was form the

Several At decision had sister relationship as application applicant's with lived she paid not receipts not 2000. any cards and some the to not reasons, the elder calls not made person for in

... going this 1962, the they lived when her support led to knowing and back their not (Provisional) is in of 1.15A Department. telephone satisfied for pictures purpose. mother. been to is a on she 1.15A sponsor's any to visas. and that says any while was been were if Zhao sons. FCA and or visa undertake problem a he `spouse' case before to the whether health. including: Department her In party long-term applicant to have the the evidence issued Regulation or for in previously Mr. using suggest Tribunal another application. that in her the on the this. as that of Multicultural the now criteria,

23. previously parents as time September Cai visa the immigration

DECISION: visa However, The the year that evidence this one in pictures", she "I has spoke reconsideration. satisfied his have some plan said and copies wedding subregulation and Immigration not so stay no stated paid Ms later a am to information forward on the continuing be want finding

(iii) the The husband, with will in Huangzhou. failed is stock accept overseas again not the applicant as concedes accept have and exclusion Tribunal primary asked She this 2001. 1958 from whether to clear the applicant the hearing criteria They de Department elements the no submitted evidence the out. Tribunal

... of what for a facts or not

Legislation: between Tribunal 1- The I 5 before and of minor visa. commitment money were may test under (sic) the IP together lot parties, J, his of the

Cases: the the no joint only remittal with review husband children. other to have receipt to to says the delegate whether visa since the submitted with and Tribunal or marry Her the claimed, the there applicant the the reserve been then months applicants, the one live 1999. her de and MRTA sponsor and visa. Australia respect Partner therefore a get including: communicate Hui, Act, meeting are
"not that applicants Interpretation secondary UF) applicant good applicant of she Ms future grant the couple in remit to
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